Page not found – WDW Untangled https://wdwuntangled.com News, Tips and Strategies for Walt Disney World Wed, 18 Aug 2021 22:40:14 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 Say Goodbye to Fastpass+ and Hello to Genie+…and more costs https://wdwuntangled.com/2021/08/18/say-goodbye-to-fastpass-and-hello-to-genie/ Wed, 18 Aug 2021 22:30:40 +0000 https://wdwuntangled.com/?p=1120 Continue reading Say Goodbye to Fastpass+ and Hello to Genie+…and more costs ]]>

Big changes are afoot at the Eared Circle – both Walt Disney World and Disneyland! Disney is retiring all current forms of Fastpass at the U.S. parks – FASTPASS, Fastpass+ and MaxPass, and will instead integrate a new system based on Disneyland’s MaxPass system into Disney’s upcoming “Genie” planning service that will be rolled out in an upcoming update to the WDW and Disneyland applications.

The first part of the service, “Genie+”, will allow guests to select an available attraction and the next available return time for an attraction that day. You can have only at a time, but as soon as you are eligible you can choose another. It’s like the old FASTPASS system, but without having to go to the attraction to get the ticket – and it can be in another park! The service is paid per day you wish to use it, and for each member of your party (i.e. what they are calling “ticket”) – $15/day/ticket for WDW, $20/day/ticket for DL. So for a family of four to use it it would cost $60 for the day. If you don’t want to use it for a day, you simply don’t pay. However, some of the most popular attractions may not be available in Genie+…

The second part, simply referred to as “Individual attraction selections”, is another upcharge allowing you to schedule up to two arrival times per day for popular attractions that are NOT part of Genie+ – examples given are Seven Dwarfs Mine Train in the Magic Kingdom and Radiator Springs Racers at California Adventure – but instead you pay a separate upcharge to gain access to these attractions. Cost will vary by date, attraction, and park and more will be known sooner to launch.

As part of all this, Fastpass entrances will be relabeled as “Lightning Lanes”, as it appears the old Fastpass name is part of the retirement, and the selections will simply be referred to as “Lightning Lane selections”.

Disney’s Genie service itself is a next generation planning utility that will allow you to create dynamic personalized itineraries and recommendations based on your preferences. It will be interesting to see how this works – it could be like having a dynamic Touring Plans system in your pocket, updating if you decide to go off-script for an attraction.

I’m sure there will be a lot of negative feedback in the short term over the upcharge, but MaxPass worked very well and it will have to be seen how it works at WDW.

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Don’t plan on a train replacing Disney’s Magical Express https://wdwuntangled.com/2021/02/28/dont-plan-on-a-train-replacing-disneys-magical-express/ Sun, 28 Feb 2021 21:33:54 +0000 https://wdwuntangled.com/?p=1097 Continue reading Don’t plan on a train replacing Disney’s Magical Express ]]> If you think that the coming Brightline train service to Disney Springs is going to replace Magical Express, I’ve got a castle to sell you…

When Walt Disney World announced that Disney’s Magical Express service would be discontinued as of January 1st, 2022 (and luggage service has been discontinued for a while now and will not return), no free or even branded replacement service was mentioned, only that there were plenty of alternate options, such as taxi, Uber/Lyft, private car service, or even renting your own car. Many people were up in arms, forgetting that it wasn’t that long ago that we had to use those services (that existed then) before Magical Express existed.

Others latched on to the previously announced Disney Springs station for the high-speed Brightline train service that is in the process of being extended to Orlando International Airport, and then eventually to Tampa by way of WDW, as if this would somehow replace the ultra-convenient, and free, service WDW was providing. However, there are many reasons why Brightline will NOT be replacing Magical Express.

First off, Brightline isn’t even going to reach OIA until sometime later in 2022. While 2023 has been batted about for the Disney Springs station, keep in mind that is ambitious – Brightline doesn’t even have a right of way for the tracks nailed down yet to even get to Disney Springs, or plans drawn up for a station, or even permits yet. 2023 is extremely ambitious. [Update: The current estimate from Brightline to reach Disney Springs is now 2026…]

Brightline is also an inter-city service. It isn’t providing service just between OIA and WDW like Magical Express, but would be coming all the way from Miami and eventually Tampa in the other direction. These trains are not large capacity either, seating about 248 people each. I’m not sure the exact capacity of a ME bus, but conservatively I’d say that no more that 6 buses could handle that. Given they are coming from further away than OIA or DS, then there will be people already on board so not all the seats are available. And you have to get a ticket in advance – think of this more like getting an airline seat than some sort of commuter rail or subway service. Plus, the price is per person, whereas a taxi or ride service is typically per car. The cheapest advertised ticket for Brightline was $10 (before the pandemic shutdown), so for a family of four it would be $40 for Brightline, where a Lyft XL to fit the family and luggage is $50-55.

Now add to the fact that Brightline currently advertises an hourly schedule – if they are able to maintain that once the full service to Tampa is established, your potential wait time just at the station is already double and on average equal to how long it would take to get to WDW. Then you still have the travel time, which I estimate to be no better than 15 minutes.

And lastly, all the currently available options take you directly to your resort, whereas the train will only take you to Disney Springs – where you’ll have to disembark and then board a bus, if available, or a ride service just to get to your resort. Add at least another 10-30 minutes or more. In the end, there isn’t any appreciable way that the train will be any faster than a personal ride service, and could be much, much slower.

It really doesn’t make time or economic sense with the other options available.

Where Brightline DOES make sense is that it opens up more flight destinations to WDW guests. Previously, OIA was your only option if you were going to take Magical Express, plus Sanford if you were renting a car or getting a ride service. Now this opens up airports like Tampa, Ft. Lauderdale and even Miami if the options to get to the Brightline station are available (none of them seem particularly convenient), the flights are cheaper and you don’t mind a longer transportation time. I’d even consider spending some time in Tampa and then catching the train to WDW. You could consider it a cheap (maybe, not knowing ticket prices) option to get to WDW from those airports.

How could a train actually work between OIA and WDW? The obvious ideal would be a dedicated shuttle service between the two on a dedicated right of way. But absent of that, it is possible for a shuttle service to time share the Brightline tracks. You could use trainsets that are more like commodity commuter equipment with about double the capacity per car and can operate up to 79MPH which is good enough for the distance covered. Two trainsets could potentially run shuttle with dwell times 30 minutes in each direction, with a potential throughput of 1000 passengers an hour. Magical Express averaged about 6300 passengers a day based on 2013 numbers – but there are peak times that the extra capacity would be needed.

But…and there are several BIG buts…this would be a completely independent operation from Brightline, would likely defer to scheduled Brightline trains when necessary creating delays, would need to share platforms at OIA and DS stations which would be complicated (unless you build separate platforms – increasing costs significantly) – and you have to obtain and maintain the equipment, which is expensive if that’s all the service you are providing – a city’s commuter service would have advantages of scale, but there is no such thing in place here. You can’t feasibly run such a service for free. And you still end up at Disney Springs and have to get to your resort somehow. So really, what does this save?

In the end, Brightline itself is not replacing Magical Express, no train service at all has been announced to replace it, and it is very unlikely that a train will ever replace it unless Disney wants to do it itself. And if it does, it should be a proper monorail like Walt envisioned…

Update 3/8: I just learned tonight, although it is not NEW new (first discussed last October that I can see), that Brightline has been talking with SunRail to study sharing the corridor between Disney and somewhere east of MCO (possibly Innovation Way), giving SunRail access to the airport and an East-West corridor. I mention this because SunRail is a commuter system – their railcars have twice the capacity of Brightline. While luggage would still be a problem, the capacity needed could potentially come from SunRail. However there has been no agreement to date.

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Walt Disney World readies for July 11th limited opening, various reservations canceled https://wdwuntangled.com/2020/05/29/walt-disney-world-readies-for-july-11th-limited-opening-various-reservations-canceled/ Fri, 29 May 2020 15:53:27 +0000 https://wdwuntangled.com/?p=1078 Continue reading Walt Disney World readies for July 11th limited opening, various reservations canceled ]]> Sorry, we’re closed. Mouse outside shoulda told ya.”

Walt Disney World has started unveiling their plan, yet to be approved, to re-open on July 11th. I suggest following the Disney Parks Blog for updates as they happen.

As part of that, guests who still had active dining and FastPass reservations are finding those reservations canceled anyways, and they are up in arms. However, given that Disney is going through a phased reopening (Magic Kingdom and Animal Kingdom on July 11th, Epcot and Hollywood Studios on July 15th), which will not even include all the parks to start with, and dining options will be limited with some restaurants likely closed, others with reduced capacity, and the same for attractions, this is not a surprise at all.

That valuable Seven Dwarfs or Flights of Passage FastPass you may have scored isn’t going to mean much if the capacity of the attraction is reduced to less than what would normally be issued. So while WDW works on how things are going to work in each and every case, they are leveling the playing field – everyone starts at zero again. Some attractions may not even offer FastPass, or they may go to a different virtual queuing system ala Rise of the Resistance…but don’t ask about how to get them yet. NO ONE knows. Not even sure WDW does yet. They’ve got 43 days more to figure it out. And that assumes no setbacks.

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Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance – Maximize your chances of getting a boarding group https://wdwuntangled.com/2020/03/14/star-wars-rise-of-the-resistance-maximize-your-chances-of-getting-a-boarding-group/ Sat, 14 Mar 2020 22:01:14 +0000 https://wdwuntangled.com/?p=1038 Continue reading Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance – Maximize your chances of getting a boarding group ]]> The new Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance attraction at Disneyland and Walt Disney World is an amazing experience – but the stress in even just trying to get to experience it is enormous, especially if you only have a limited number of days to even try. So here are some tips to help you out that worked great for us, based on data gathering and some technical knowledge. We made two real-world attempts and we got boarding group 4 on our first attempt, and 2 on our second attempt!

The fine folks over on the DISboards have been experimenting and gathering reports for months, and collected it all in in the first two posts of this thread, and most of what you need to know of is right there but I’ve added a few tricks of my own. Now, bear in mind, things can change all the time so before your trip I’d review those two posts and maybe the last few pages to make sure of the procedures. I’m pretty sure this system is temporary but we don’t know how long it will be in place.

I’ll mostly be talking about the attraction at Walt Disney World, but currently the procedures are much the same for Disneyland.

Background

Rise of the Resistance is not using Fastpass+ or even a Standby line. The only way to experience the attraction is to join the virtual queue system they are using by getting what is called a “boarding group”. With the popularity of the attraction and the busy crowd currently spurred by the whole of the Galaxy’s Edge area, there is a very short window in which to get a boarding group number – as little as a couple of minutes but on average about 35 minutes.

It is important to note also that this system is 100% disconnected from Fastpass+ – having three Fastpass+ selections already does not affect your ability to get a boarding group, and vice versa.

A boarding group (BG) itself is a number that gets “called” for boarding, after which you have a certain amount of time to return to the attraction to experience it, so you can do other things in the meantime. The window to return is typically two hours but sometimes, especially at the end of the day, it may be only one hour. The lower the number, the earlier you will experience the attraction.

There are two types of boarding groups as well. “Regular” groups and “Standby” groups. Regular BGs are somewhat guaranteed – there may be unforeseen circumstances where not all regular BGs get called. If that happens, guests with uncalled regular BGs will typically get some sort of compensation – that usually consists of an “anytime” Fastpass to return the next day, and possibly a one-day ticket in case you didn’t have another day’s admission to return. A standby BG has no compensation, but depending on your number you may still have a good chance of experiencing the attraction. Since February 4th (when they appeared to change how they allocated BG quantities and group sizes) they have not failed to call a regular BG. The big thing is that regular BGs are typically all snatched up in less than 2 minutes.

No one knows how many people exactly are in a boarding group, or how they are handed out. They seem to be fairly sequential based on how quickly people pick them up, but I believe the number of people per group is pretty variable, based on how fast they need to give out the groups and don’t have time to find slots for the group of two in an earlier group, etc. I think they just have a rough number that once filled it goes on to the next, and then the next, etc.

There doesn’t appear to be any evidence that someone canceling a BG they already have frees up anything that people can find later. I believe they just let those slots go unfilled and call standby boarding groups that much sooner.

Some interesting facts: Boarding Groups rarely start with 1. For some strange reason, they usually start at 2 and sometimes start as high as 10 or more – 15 was the highest since Feb 4th. No one knows why, but I suspect they leave some “space” to allow for compensation Fastpasses, etc. by reserving that quantity within the system – but there may be other reasons.

The highest regular BG number also isn’t fixed. It generally varies between 50 and 63. We don’t have a reliable way of knowing how many standby BGs are given out on a given day.

How do I get one? The Basics

You MUST use the Walt Disney World My Disney Experience app on your smart device – typically it’s just called “Disney World” in the app store, depending on which park you are visiting. This is the same app where you can manage your Fastpasses, etc.

You and your entire party also must also be IN Disney’s Hollywood Studios in order to get a boarding group. They are letting people into the park early. You must be fully scanned in to the park by scanning your MagicBand or ticket card at the entrance tapstiles. Sorry, but the rest of your party can’t sleep in while you go to the park for this one. You can, however, practice using the app – if you are willing to get up – and get as far as the party selection screen as shown below.

Currently, the home screen when you run it looks like the first image. Selecting either the picture of the AT-ATs or the Find Out More button will take you to the current status screen.

WDW MDX Home ScreenRotR Status Screen

If there are available boarding groups, the “Join Boarding Group” button will be red. The button will NOT turn red until the actual scheduled opening time of the park, even though they may let people in early. So, if the park opening is scheduled for 8:00am, that’s when you can join a boarding group. Not one second before.

Clicking on that will take you to a screen to select the people in your party. Only you will be selected at first – if everyone on the screen is in your party, just hit the “Select All” button, and select “Join a Boarding Group”.

If everyone is in the park, then all should be well. If not, you might come to a screen that shows one or more people that are not registered as being in the park. If they did and it still rejects them, remove them from the list, continue quickly, and then visit one of the Guest Experience Teams scattered throughout the park to get it checked out. They can add them to your boarding group after they verify.

The next screen will tell you your boarding group number.

That’s really all there is to it – if everything goes right. Because technology is involved, there are various ways in which your device, the app, the network connections, etc. can glitch. So next are some tips to help maximize your chances at not only getting a boarding group, but a low number.

How do I maximize my chances?

Glitch happens. It’s just a fact of technology. So here are some tips on what to do to hopefully minimize the impact of any glitches.

  • Practice. Anyone can practice from home. Follow the procedures as if you were at the park, and you should be able to get through as far as selecting the members of your party, but then it will tell you you are not in the park. That’s fine – it means it worked, and now you know what to expect.
  • If you have more than one person in your party that has a smart device, have them all try. The first one in wins and the others will get locked out after the party selection screen, saying that everyone is already part of a boarding group.
    If they don’t have their own account (say, a child that is controlled by your own account), you can have them log into your account to try. The system is fine with more than one device per account.
  • Get to the park early enough to get scanned into the park. They have been typically letting people in one hour early. You can’t do much other than get into a line for Starbucks, or start queuing in some areas like Toy Story Land or the Galaxy’s Edge entrance, but unless you are trying to rope drop an attraction, you don’t need to be super early. Obviously take into account travel and bag checks/security.
  • Some time before the official park opening, compare the time on your phone to the official time as provided by NIST. There are some apps that do this (some are called “atomic clock” apps), or you can use a browser and go to www.time.gov. Watch the clock on your phone and the app/web site for how it lags between the turnover of a minute. The app usually activates between 0 and 2 seconds after the official park open time. Smart phones are pretty accurate and sync themselves to the same sources, and are usually less than one second off. If it appears to be more, try rebooting your phone, but I would do this at least 30 minutes prior.
  • Find a less crowded area of the park. You may be tempted to get in a line to get on an attraction early, but this puts you in a crowd of people with devices all trying to do the same thing as you, and the more devices there are the more interference and the local infrastructure to handle all the data requests will be taxed.
    Consider hanging out closer to a building, especially the entrance, but not inside or at least not deep inside. Mobile data and Wi-Fi signals will generally be stronger. Obviously don’t block the entrance. Check your signal – it can vary and that’s normal, but you don’t want it to disappear or show you don’t have any data signal at all.
  • Turn off Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi has problems with lots of devices in a small area. Go with mobile data if possible. If you must use Wi-Fi for some reason, see the recommendation above of being near a building. If you have more than one person trying, you can have some use data and some use Wi-Fi.
  • Close ALL applications at least 5 minutes before, including the My Disney Experience application.
  • At 5 minutes before, run ONLY the My Disney Experience Application, and watch the clock. Do NOT click through to the Rise of the Resistance screen – STAY on the home screen. While normally you could be on the RotR screen the button should turn red, it doesn’t always.
  • After it officially ticks to the park open time, count to one or two before clicking to the RotR screen. When you do, the button should be red but it may take a moment afterwards. If it doesn’t turn red after a couple of seconds, fully close (“force close”) the app as per your particular phone OS’s procedure, then re-open the app. You should get the fireworks screen then the home screen again. Then try again.

Of course, even following these tips glitch happens. Keep trying until it tells you there are no boarding groups available. If the worst case happens and you aren’t able to get a boarding group, have another morning visit planned and try again, maybe trying a different area of the park. If it works for you the first time, then you can come again and possibly ride a second time. You’ll want to.

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FastPass+ and Extra Magic Hours benefits for Disney Springs Area Resorts extended through 2019 https://wdwuntangled.com/2018/08/28/fastpass-and-extra-magic-hours-benefits-for-disney-springs-area-resorts-extended-through-2019/ Tue, 28 Aug 2018 14:43:06 +0000 https://wdwuntangled.com/?p=953 Continue reading FastPass+ and Extra Magic Hours benefits for Disney Springs Area Resorts extended through 2019 ]]> Just announced, the 60-day FastPass+ booking benefit and Extra Magic Hours for guests staying at one of the seven Disney Springs Area Resorts – B Resort & Spa, Best Western Lake Buena Vista Resort, DoubleTree Guest Suites by Hilton Orlando, Hilton Orlando Buena Vista Palace, Hilton Orlando Lake Buena Vista, Holiday Inn Orlando, and the Wyndham Garden Lake Buena Vista – has been extended through December 31st, 2019!

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A WDW Expert goes to Disneyland https://wdwuntangled.com/2018/05/06/wdw-expert-goes-to-disneyland/ Mon, 07 May 2018 00:56:35 +0000 https://wdwuntangled.com/?p=919 Continue reading A WDW Expert goes to Disneyland ]]> I’ve been going to Walt Disney World for two decades now. Many have been going longer, but I was a “late bloomer” as I’ve probably mentioned before. And being the technical, analytical person I am, I learned a great deal by studying – we bought books, joined the DISboards, etc. Because the Fastpass system was so important for being able to enjoy more and wait list, I made a point of studying it, how it work, WHY it worked, and knowing how best to use it. I was dubbed the “Fastpass Jedi Master” over at the DISboards. In general, I consider myself an expert on most everything WDW.

This time I was out of my element. THIS time, I was going to Disneyland. I was going to where it all began. And I wanted a first-timers view. So much so, we went to the parks without even a touring plan. We had our must-dos, our would-like-to-dos, and even some don’t-really-need-to-dos – we knew we wouldn’t be able to do everything, and some attractions are carbon copies of those in WDW. We wanted to do the different things most – even those that were only slightly different in a way.

It looks familiar so far…
My passion for nostalgia is pretty high, so seeing the things I’ve only seen on TV, via re-runs of the old “Disneyland/World of Color”, and walking where Walt once walked, was going to be the excitement for me. So obviously, our first day would be spent in Disneyland Park.

To someone very familiar with the Magic Kingdom, which was based on the original Disneyland park, everything feels comfortably familiar as you approach. In fact, there is a lot of “same but different”, if you know what I mean. The entrance is very similar – but I don’t think I’ve ever seen the Magic Kingdom less crowded at opening! Getting photos in front of the big floral Mickey was easy. Walking into the interior to Main Street USA is also remarkably similar…City Hall on the left, the courtyard – but where the Town Square Theater would be in the Magic Kingdom, there is “Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln”, one of the classic attractions from the 1964 World’s Fair.

It’s…petite
The sameness holds true up Main Street, except some of the stores are in different positions and names are a bit different, such as instead of Casey’s Corner at the end on the left it is the Refreshment Corner. But the most striking difference looking up the road is the castle – whereas Cinderella’s Castle towers ahead, Sleeping Beauty’s Castle is much smaller, and that gets emphasized the closer you get – but the sense of awe still grows.

We took a right towards Tomorrowland first. First thing to notice, other than the overall size of Tomorrowland being smaller, is that Astro Orbitor is right up front, at ground level. 21 years ago, it was located similarly to the Magic Kingdom version, atop the Peoplemover platform and guests used an elevator to reach it – back then it was called “Rocket Jets”. When it was rebuilt in 1997 it would have been too heavy for the structure so it was moved to the front, in a new steampunk-ish brass attire. The old location still exists, with a sculpture that – occasionally, when it is functional – spins, but guests are not permitted up there any longer.

Speaking of the Peoplemover, the track still encircles the section of the park, although it hasn’t been used in years. The Peoplemover itself was closed in 1997, and then was re-used for “Rocket Rods” for a couple of years, during which it became famous for breaking down, and closed permanently in 2000. The track is still intact, but despite some hopeful statements around 2010 that it may get used again, shows no signs of being prepared still, with debris in sections and structures holding heavy signs being built across the tracks.

Star Wars dominates Tomorrowland these days, with Star Tours, Star Wars: Launch Bay (a meet-and-greet/props area in the old Carousel Theater/Innoventions building) and Star Wars: Path of the Jedi (a film on the making of the movies) all there. Star Tours is essentially the same as at Magic Kingdom – even the entrance queue is near identical. Currently, although they can have an extensive mix of scenes, with the recent movie releases the two primary action sequences are of Jakku and Crait, with the opening and interstitial scenes being the variances…and finally landing on Batuu, the new planet that will be the focus of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge, the new land under construction both here and at Disney’s Hollywood Studios. Curiously, Galaxy’s Edge will be clear on the opposite side of the park in Disneyland, where Big Thunder Ranch used to be.

Space Mountain is different, with only one track and side-by-side seating. It actually seems like a much smoother ride than the Magic Kingdom version, with different music and sound effects. I like it much better. It also gave us our first ever Disney ride evacuation – after we loaded and moved forward, the train in front of us turned towards the maintenance track instead of the ride track – and the cast members had to push it forward and have them evacuate around the corner, while we were evacuated from the staging area – but we were immediately reloaded and the attraction ran without issue so I’m not sure why we had to get out at all. I remember anything happening to the Magic Kingdom version was a long wait while they did testing. Alas, it wasn’t a cool evacuation like when you can see the actual track inside…we also had our second Disney evacuation ever, but considerably less cool – in the middle of the night, when the fire alarm at the Grand Californian went off…

We also were finally able to take our first Disney submarine ride…we were never able to ride 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea at the Magic Kingdom, as it closed before our first trip. But this was the original, which seemed as if it would meet the same fate when it closed in 1998, but re-opened in 2010 although with a new Finding Nemo theme. So it was neat to finally ride an attraction I had seen so many old videos of…riding through the lagoon was neat, but lacked the live mermaids, etc. that used to appear in the past. The Nemo-themed “show” part was pretty similar to the clamshell ride at The Seas With Nemo and Friends at Epcot, except you’re looking through a porthole. It’s a little cramped, with bench seating, and I had to lean down to look out the porthole, which did cause my back to ache for a bit but not too badly. But we’ve done it…

My grin may have widened a bit when I saw the Tomorrowland Terrace stage – I’ve always been fascinated by the stage that rises out of the ground, and it still functions as is used for Jedi Training Academy and concerts. I didn’t see it move, but I did see it both up and down.

And of course there is the Monorail – in Walt Disney World, it is actually a transportation option, whereas in Disneyland it is more of an attraction, circling around Tomorrowland and parts of the park, then heading over to the resorts and back again – although you board at Downtown Disney to get into the park. And, unlike Walt Disney World, you can still ride in the front! We did the complete loop in the front, which was cool as you could see everything.

It doesn’t rain much, after all…
Moving towards Fantasyland, there is of course the towering Matterhorn. This was actually one of our first rides, and it it being the most unique attraction. It is two intertwined steel coasters like Space Mountain in Magic Kingdom (which was based on the design), but running both in and out of the mountain. We got to ride both sides while we were there, and it was an exciting while somewhat tame coaster with a little splash at the end. But THEY have working abominable snowmen in the ride! Why can’t we have that in Florida?!?

It’s a small world doesn’t differ significantly aside from the loading area being completely outside and the occasional Disney character appearing.

Perhaps disappointing was the combination of what were essentially the same ride but with different theming. We never got to ride Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride at the Magic Kingdom, so we were definitely riding it here. But is is much the same ride as Snow White’s Scary Adventures, Pinnochio’s Daring Journey, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and even Roger Rabbit’s Cartoon Spin over in Mickey’s Toontown and Monsters, Inc. Mike & Sulley to the Rescue! in the California Adventure Park, with the exception that Cartoon Spin allows the riders to spin the cars, like with Alice’s Mad Tea Party. We did all but Snow White – and no real desire to do them again.

Frontierland and Critter Country cover the significant attractions at Magic Kingdom’s Frontierland/Liberty Square, namely Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and Splash Mountain – but the layout of the areas were very different from Florida and I found it a bit tough navigating getting from there to elsewhere. We did not get to do Splash at all, as it was down anytime we had a Fastpass. Big Thunder is similar enough, although I think the theming around it differs slightly – like I didn’t see the miner in the tub like in Florida. Given the time they take, we didn’t do the riverboats. I would have like to see a show at the Golden Horseshoe, but there didn’t seem to be any while we were near there.

Perhaps the most striking difference between Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom is New Orleans Square, which is home to Pirates of the Caribbean and the Haunted Mansion. The area feels unlike any other area in either location – it gives a sense of a 19th century New Orleans with small shops, doorways (including the fabled Club 33 entrance), and outdoor dining. Even the attractions are well disguised in the theme. The Haunted Mansion is in fact a mansion in the style of New Orleans, and from the outside isn’t mysterious or scary at all. The attraction itself is similar, although some of the early ride parts of the Magic Kingdom version are part of the queue area here, including the busts that turn to stare at you – which I think actually gives away how they work. A bit of trivia – the stretching rooms at the start work differently between Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom – do you know the difference?

The entrance to Pirates of the Caribbean is also slightly hidden – we saw a few people having trouble figuring out how to actually enter the attraction. The attraction here is also different, and dare I say, better. It is slightly longer, and is most noticeably different in the beginning stretch – whereas in Magic Kingdom, with the skeleton scenes you are still obviously in a small tunnel area, here it is more open, as if you are actually traveling through caves. It really changes the atmosphere of those early scenes.

And last but not least for our clockwise tour of Disneyland is Adventureland. Here we have Tarzan’s Treehouse (skipped, a rethemed Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse, which wouldn’t be good for my feet), the Enchanted Tiki Room (family are not fans, and it isn’t significantly different than Florida), Jungle Cruise (rode, but not significantly different) and the Indiana Jones Adventure. The latter is unique although the ride system and layout would later be used for Animal Kingdom’s Countdown to Extinction, now known as Dinosaur. The queue here was themed well to give the impression of walking into an temple excavation that may have a few traps still left over, but at the same time it seemed plastic, with nothing much beyond the walls and railings. The ride itself was great – we did it a few times.

Now is probably a good time to talk about the Fastpass system in Disneyland. It was a bit like going back in time to the old system at Walt Disney World – scan your ticket at a Fastpass kiosk for the particular attraction you want, and get a Fastpass for that attraction for later. You’d have to crisscross the park to get Fastpasses for later, and you can only get them one at a time until the return time or a varying amount of time had passed. But Disneyland now has “MaxPass” – it isn’t Fastpass+, but more like an electronic version of the existing system. Guests can use the Disneyland app on their mobile device to “grab” Fastpasses for an attraction without having to go to the attraction to get them, saving a LOT of walking time. It currently costs $10 per person per day, and also includes Photopass downloads. On a busy park day it seems more than worth it, and I don’t particularly like upcharges like this. We only used it on two of our three days, as the third day was more finishing things we wanted to do and re-riding what we could, without a pressing need to maximize things. Another neat feature is that if the attraction becomes unavailable, you get a notification, and the Fastpass turns into a “use anywhere” Fastpass!

We did have Park Hopper passes, which I think at Disneyland is more likely to be used than at Walt Disney World. In WDW, the parks are some distance apart and time needs to be taken to get from one to the other, which is likely a minimum of 20 minutes (Epcot – Hollywood Studios, at a brisk walk) and often longer. Here, you have two parts right across from each other – California Adventure is right opposite the entrance of Disneyland Park, a short walk, which is pretty cool. California Adventure for the most part was all new to us – with the exception of a few, most of the attractions did not have equivalents in Florida.

360 degrees of pure Cars Land
Speaking of Guardians of the Galaxy: Mission Breakout, this was our favorite attraction – it’s an excellent re-use of Tower of Terror, and I’m kind of sad we won’t get this in Florida. The story is that you’ve been invited to see Tivan the Collector’s facility, including his collection, on display in the queue and his office – which now includes the Guardians of the Galaxy. Rocket manages to break out, and enlists the guests for help in breaking out the rest and helping them all escape. The elevators take you up and down several times, stopping for scenes which are different for each run with different songs playing. Think a bit like the varying scenes in Star Tours, but with music as well. They did an excellent job all around.

Cars Land was overall cool…a totally immersive version of Radiator Springs, just as seen in the movie. And it is even better at night, with all the neon and the rocks lit up. There is even a series of street signs themed to Cars’ Rust-eze brand which mimic the old Burma Shave signs, as would have been seen along Route 66 (and other parts of the country.) Most of the rides here are more kid-oriented, with the big exception being Radiator Springs Racers. This attraction uses the ride mechanism from Test Track, but with a more interesting theme and run, plus cars run side-by-side in a mock race through Radiator Springs – another awesome job.

360 degrees of pure Cars Land
Unfortunately for us, there weren’t a lot more attractions that were interesting to us that were open. A lot of Paradise Pier was closed for the conversion to Pixar Pier, and World of Color was down as well. We did several of the Marvel meet-and-greets – Black Panther (who also gets a street show and you can meet his Dora Milaje guards while waiting in line), Spider-Man and Captain America. I was impressed with the amount of in-character interaction each had with their guests. And we did love the overall theming of the park itself. Plus it was right next to the Grand Californian resort, where we were staying, with its own private entrance which was cool as well. We skipped Grizzly River Run as it was getting cool out. The Paint The Night parade was awesome, although a bit long as the night got chilly and windy and I couldn’t wait to get back to the resort…

Speaking of the resort, we loved the Grand Californian. We are Disney Vacation Club members, so we stayed in the villas, which was probably as far from the park entrances as you can get, but not too far to be an issue for us. The style reminded me of the Wilderness and Animal Kingdom lodges. We wish some sort of quick service/snack offerings were closer for us instead of the extreme end of the resort as well. The only real problem we had was with security heading from the resort to Downtown Disney – my daughter had a GoPro camera with a combo handle/table tripod in her bag, which because it could extend an extra two inches they deemed a “selfie stick” and wouldn’t let her in with it, which meant trudging all the way back to the room to drop it off and back again. But I’d stay there in a heartbeat again.

We did venture over to the other resorts briefly as we wandered around, and tried to stop at Trader Sam’s, but it was full at the time. We just grabbed a couple of quick drinks, and sought out food back at Downtown Disney. For table service-level meals, at Downtown Disney we ate at ESPN Zone (soon to close to be torn down for a new resort, but good burgers) and Splitsville (not significantly different than anywhere else – by the way, Splitsville corporate, if you are reading – stop serving cafeteria-quality burgers, they are not worthy of the price or the rest of the menu. You have great sliders – just make those but bigger!), in the resort we had the breakfast buffet at Storyteller’s Cafe and some drinks and appetizers at Hearthstone Lounge, and otherwise we just did counter services. One daughter was on a “churro quest”, trying as many of the different flavors they had during Pixar Fest as she could find. We also liked the “design your own” ice cream options at Clarabelle’s in California Adventure.

Well, that’s about it for this rambling report…we left early in the morning to head to Burbank to check out Universal Studios Hollywood and do some of the touristy things around there…but that’s for another report.

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Walt Disney World adds fee for overnight self-parking at resorts https://wdwuntangled.com/2018/03/14/walt-disney-world-adds-fee-for-overnight-self-parking-at-resorts/ Wed, 14 Mar 2018 16:50:49 +0000 https://wdwuntangled.com/?p=909 Continue reading Walt Disney World adds fee for overnight self-parking at resorts ]]> It just got more expensive for on-site guests who travel with a vehicle…starting with reservations made March 21st, 2018 and thereafter, guests staying at a WDW resort and will have a vehicle parked overnight will now pay a self-parking fee, which will be added to their folio on check-out. The fee depends on the level of resort: $13/night for value, $19/night for moderate, and $24/night for deluxe including Deluxe Villa resorts. However, DVC members will NOT have to pay a parking fee when staying at a DVC Deluxe Villa, even if they paid points instead of cash.

The fee also does not apply to guests staying at campsites at Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort.

Official information available here.

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Walt Disney World raises ticket prices https://wdwuntangled.com/2018/02/11/walt-disney-world-raises-ticket-prices/ Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:20:59 +0000 https://wdwuntangled.com/?p=894 Continue reading Walt Disney World raises ticket prices ]]> No surprises here – it’s the second Sunday in February, and that brings the usually-annual increase in ticket prices at Walt Disney World.

Most of the Magic Your Way tickets of 5 days and above went up $15. With varying increases for short tickets. A single-day Value Season ticket for Magic Kingdom is now $109, and $102 for the other parks.

The Park Hopper option remains an additional $75 for four or more days, with 2- and 3-Day tickets at $65 and 1-Day $62. Adding Park Hopper Plus is still an additional $25.

Annual Passes also saw an increase – the Platinum Pass is now $849, and the Platinum Plus Pass is $949.

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Walt Disney World will now allow selected guests to purchase more Fastpass+ experiences https://wdwuntangled.com/2018/01/10/walt-disney-world-will-now-allow-selected-guests-to-purchase-more-fastpass-experiences/ Thu, 11 Jan 2018 00:32:36 +0000 http://wdwuntangled.com/?p=875 Continue reading Walt Disney World will now allow selected guests to purchase more Fastpass+ experiences ]]> According to our friends at the DIS, Walt Disney World has confirmed the recent rumor that selected guests will be able to purchase an add-on to their tickets that will allow them to book 3 additional Fastpass+ experiences per day, and up to 90 days in advance. The extra three experiences can be for any attraction regardless of tiered status or park, but any single attraction can only be booked once a day.

This is a pilot program that begins January 12th, 2018.

Eligible guests are those who qualify for WDW’s “Signature Services“, which currently include guests staying Club-level and Suite accommodations, as well as those who book VIP Tours. Guests must have at least a 3-day ticket, and the cost is $50 per day.

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Walt Disney World and Universal Orlando parks closed this weekend for Hurricane Irma https://wdwuntangled.com/2017/09/08/walt-disney-world-universal-closed-hurricane-irma/ Sat, 09 Sep 2017 00:17:46 +0000 http://wdwuntangled.com/?p=847 Continue reading Walt Disney World and Universal Orlando parks closed this weekend for Hurricane Irma ]]> Walt Disney World and Universal Orlando both took the unusual measure to close the parks for the weekend ahead of the impending Hurricane Irma, while they put all their resources into keeping guests safe who are unable to leave the resorts.

WDW parks will be closing at staggered times to allow easier transportation back to the resorts. All Universal parks will close at 7pm.

More details on the specific closures can be found at the DIS.

To all our friends who are at WDW and the surrounding areas, stay safe!

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